Catalyst N° 039 of 125 22 Oct 2024
Inside Crusoe’s energy-first approach to data centers
with Chase Lochmiller, co-founder and CEO, Crusoe
In this note
The question
If you site computing around energy instead of siting energy around computing, what changes?
The answer
Crusoe’s answer is that almost everything does, because AI training is unusually tolerant of latency and can therefore be put wherever power is cheap, clean and abundant rather than wherever users are. Lochmiller’s second claim is the one worth carrying: he thinks AI’s electricity demand is being under-forecast, not over-forecast, and he treats that as an opportunity to catalyze new clean generation rather than a reason for restraint.
03The argument
Start with the constraint, because it drives the rest. Asked directly whether power or chip supply limits AI today, Lochmiller says power, and describes the bottleneck moving. A year earlier the scramble was for chips. Once the existing data center capacity was absorbed, US vacancy ended 2023 below 2% and was below 1% at the time of recording, which for a commercial real estate asset class is effectively nothing. What now limits new capacity is access to power, and he lists the specific chokepoints rather than leaving it abstract: grid interconnection queues, high-voltage transformers, switchgear and backup generation.
If power is the scarce input, the siting logic inverts, and one property of AI makes that possible. Training workloads are far more tolerant of latency than most computing, so the load can be positioned geographically in a way that, say, a trading system or a consumer app cannot. That is the whole basis of the energy-first approach. It sends Crusoe to places that are not traditional data center markets: West Texas, where wind and solar are heavily built out and there is substantial curtailment and negatively priced power; a former Alcoa factory in upstate New York attached to a large hydro dam Lochmiller describes as massively underutilized; and Iceland, where geothermal and hydro are cheap and the climate makes cooling easier. Alongside those brownfield sites, the company partners with independent power producers on new generation, taking load behind the meter, using the existing substation infrastructure and keeping the grid connection as a backup rather than as the primary supply. His analogy is that aluminum smelting already made this trade, shipping ore across an ocean to do the electricity-intensive step in Iceland. Training a model is the better version of the trade, because what moves is data over subsea cables rather than physical material.
The demand argument is where he separates himself from the industry’s public posture, and Lacey names the contrast: large tech companies concede privately that this will use a lot of power while hedging in public. Lochmiller does not hedge. He thinks demand is under-forecast, and supports it with a thought experiment rather than a model: if every American adult ran half an H100 as a copilot for daily work and social interaction, that alone would require 250 gigawatts, which he says is orders of magnitude larger than the forecasts on offer. He adds positive reflexivity, meaning that as the models get more useful people use them more, which drives more compute, which draws more power. The reason he frames this as an opportunity rather than a threat is that the load is steerable, so it can pull net new clean generation into existence where it would not otherwise be built: batteries alongside West Texas wind and solar as costs fall, or new gas paired with carbon capture and sequestration, an area he says Crusoe spends a great deal of time on. Underneath that sits a value judgment he states plainly, that power consumption is not bad in itself if it advances things worth advancing, and an expectation that AI will invent solutions to sustainability problems. That last step is the load-bearing one and it is asserted rather than demonstrated.
04What you need to know first
- Latency tolerance
- How much delay a workload can absorb before it stops being useful. Large-model training can absorb a lot, which is why the compute can be moved to remote power instead of the power being brought to population centers. This single property carries the whole energy-first thesis.
- Curtailment and negative prices
- When a grid has more wind or solar output than it can use or move, generators are cut back, and prices can go below zero. That surplus is the resource Crusoe is trying to convert into compute.
- Behind the meter
- Connecting a load directly to a generator rather than taking supply through the grid. Here it lets a data center use an existing substation and treat the grid connection as backup.
- Power density per chip
- Watts drawn by a single accelerator. It is rising fast across chip generations, and it is what forces liquid cooling and redesigned data center layouts.
05Details worth keeping
- The pipeline number and the scale shift behind it: roughly 12 gigawatts in development or advanced commercial discussions. Lochmiller says a remarkable number of people now ask for gigawatt-scale sites, and some of those asking for one gigawatt actually want ten, which is pushing customers toward linking data centers across geographies into a more synchronized, decentralized footprint.
- Training clusters behave like nothing else on a grid connection. Data is broadcast to the GPUs, they compute, they publish results, and the cycle repeats hundreds or thousands of times a second, so the cluster “breathes,” with power draw spiking and dropping at that frequency. He describes this as a genuine and unexpected power management problem they had to engineer around.
- Chip power density is the main design driver: about 300 watts per chip for the previous-generation A100, about 700 watts for the current H100 and H200, and about 1,200 watts for the coming GB200. Cooling those systems is what he calls the biggest engineering challenge from the data center side, and the large-scale liquid cooling that follows is mostly plumbing.
- He points at a labor story that he says is under-discussed: massive shortages of electricians, welders and plumbers, an AI boom that is simultaneously a blue-collar boom, and a revitalization of regions such as the Rust Belt.
- Two responses to remote siting. Modularity and offsite fabrication, because getting labor to a remote low-cost-energy site is hard and work done in a controlled factory deploys faster and cheaper on site. And cabling, where he notes that one of their large clusters involves over a million strands of fiber.
- On water, the approach is closed-loop cooling systems to minimize net water consumed.
- The most speculative idea in the episode comes from a conversation with Orbital Materials, a team out of DeepMind working on foundation models for inorganic chemistry. The proposal is a custom-engineered direct air capture material tuned to the specific temperature of a data center’s waste heat, absorbing carbon and chilling the water at the same time, which would point at a net carbon-negative facility. Lochmiller calls it a bit science-fictiony himself.
06Claims worth citing
All figures as stated on 2024-10-22. Figures about Crusoe’s own pipeline, sites and designs come from its CEO in a partner episode, so attribute them to the company. Chip specifications, vacancy rates and demand forecasts move quickly.
- Power, not chip supply, is the main constraint on scaling AI. Lochmiller
- US data center vacancy ended 2023 below 2% and was below 1% at the time of recording, the second figure hedged as what he thinks it is. Lochmiller
- Roughly 12 gigawatts in Crusoe’s pipeline, defined loosely as development or advanced commercial discussions. Lochmiller
- Chip power draw: about 300 watts for an A100, about 700 watts for an H100 or H200, about 1,200 watts for a GB200. Lochmiller
- If every American adult used half an H100 as a copilot, it would require 250 gigawatts. This is an illustration rather than a forecast, and the assumptions converting chips to gigawatts are not given. Lochmiller
- Demand is being under-forecast, and the illustration above is orders of magnitude larger than the forecasts in circulation. Lochmiller
- One of Crusoe’s large clusters involves over a million strands of fiber. Lochmiller
- Third-party projections offered by the host as framing: the International Energy Agency and Goldman Sachs expecting electricity demand to double in three to five years; Morgan Stanley projecting that generative AI alone in 2025 could account for a third of the total computational demand seen from data centers in 2022; regulated utilities potentially facing $5 to $10 billion of annual capital investment. The first of these is stated without saying whether it means data center demand or total electricity demand, and Lochmiller does not engage with the individual numbers. Lacey, citing IEA, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley
- Named siting examples: West Texas wind and solar with heavy curtailment and negative prices, a former Alcoa site in upstate New York on an underutilized hydro dam, and geothermal and hydro in Iceland. Lochmiller
07Where it’s contested
- This is a partner episode and the conversation runs with the guest rather than against him. Lacey does not test the 250-gigawatt illustration, the 12-gigawatt pipeline or the claim that demand is under-forecast. The sharpest moment is his observation that large tech companies concede the power demand privately and hedge publicly while Lochmiller does not, which Lochmiller accepts as a fair characterization.
- The company’s own figures are exactly that. Pipeline, site descriptions, closed-loop water claims and deployment plans come from the CEO, with no third-party data, operating results or customer figures in the episode. Normal for this format, and worth remembering before repeating them as measured.
- The 250-gigawatt figure is a hypothetical, not a projection. It assumes a usage pattern that does not exist, does not state utilization or supporting infrastructure, and is never reconciled with the third-party forecasts quoted earlier in the episode. Its purpose is to argue that forecasts are too low, not to give a number.
- The host’s closing restatement runs ahead of the guest. Lacey sums up the conversation as Lochmiller thinking the industry already has the business models and clean energy technologies to solve most of the problem. Lochmiller’s own answer is narrower: he says he is optimistic that the load itself has control over how it demands power, and then argues from the technological upside of AI. He never claims the solutions are in hand, and the note should not be read as saying he did.
- The strongest claim is the least evidenced. That AI’s payoff will include inventing solutions to sustainability problems is offered as a perspective, explicitly framed as a choice between two attitudes toward the technology rather than as a result. He supports it with examples of customers doing work in that direction, including fusion modeling, advanced weather modeling for climate adaptation, battery chemistry work with SES and materials for direct air capture, but those are activities under way, not demonstrated payoffs.
- The carbon-negative data center is a concept from a conversation, not a system anyone has built, and he says so.