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Catalyst N° 115 of 125 1 Jul 2026

Inside the most sophisticated plan for solar geoengineering

with Yanai Yedvab, CEO and co-founder, Stardust

In this note
  1. 01The question
  2. 02The answer
  3. 03The argument
  4. 04What you need to know first
  5. 05Details worth keeping
  6. 06Claims worth citing
  7. 07Where it’s contested

The question

If cooling the whole planet costs about what one hyperscale data center costs, what would make it safe enough to consider, and who decides whether it happens?

The answer

Two separate questions, and Yedvab answers only the first. His technical claim is narrow: a silica-based particle about as effective as sulfate and not cheaper, but far more inert and biodegradable and, crucially, testable at very small scale where sulfate is not; he is explicit that the testing is unfinished and puts his own summary no higher than a foundation for what may be a safe and controllable option. On governance he is firm in form and deliberately empty in content, insisting that governments in the plural decide both testing and deployment while saying he does not know which body that should be and that it is not the company’s place to shape one, so the episode does not resolve whether this should be done and does not pretend to.

03The argument

The premise of the episode is economic, and it is Shayle’s. Almost every climate technology is a collective action problem where the effort only works if nearly everyone participates. Solar radiation management inverts that. Shayle’s opening figure is that roughly three million tons of reflective particles in the stratosphere could cool the planet by one and a half degrees Celsius for about $30 billion, which is less than a single hyperscale data center costs. He quotes the economist Scott Barrett’s formulation: climate change is a free rider problem, where everyone waits for someone else to pay, while solar geoengineering is a free driver problem, where it only takes one. One country, one company, conceivably one individual. On that framing the low cost is not a favorable detail, it is the entire governance problem, and it is the frame Yedvab is answering against throughout.

His technical case is more modest than the episode’s title suggests, and he volunteers the modesty. The concept is old, and the default candidate has always been sulfuric acid, because large volcanic eruptions do the same thing naturally. Sulfate’s drawbacks are that it is toxic, causes acid rain, harms the ozone layer and carries high uncertainty. Stardust’s answer is two particles: amorphous silica of the kind used in toothpaste and as a food additive, and a composite with a silica core and a shell of calcite, the material in limestone and eggshells. Asked whether they work better, Yedvab says no. Effectiveness is comparable to sulfate within a few tenths of a percent, neither much better nor much worse, and he adds unprompted that Stardust is not competing on cost and that sulfur may come in somewhat cheaper. What he claims instead is that the materials are naturally occurring and known to be safe, that they are inert and biodegradable so they do not accumulate in the environment over decades, and that they treat the ozone layer better. The one performance advantage he names is optical: sulfate absorbs outgoing infrared radiation from the Earth, which the composite particle avoids, and avoiding it is what would let you push to higher levels of cooling if that were ever wanted. For cooling comparable to the warming of the past fifty years, he says the simpler silica particle alone is enough.

The genuinely novel argument is about testability, and it is the hinge between the technical question and the political one. The stratosphere already carries a few hundred thousand tons of sulfate, and that background fluctuates, so the smallest sulfate experiment that could be distinguished from noise is on the order of a million tons. That, as Yedvab puts it, is not an experiment, it is deployment. A novel particle has no such background, so you can begin orders of magnitude below the level that produces any climatic or environmental effect and ramp up stepwise against explicit success criteria, which he compares to a clinical trial for a new drug. Two other pieces support it: a tagging technology that gives each batch, and each injection site, a unique fingerprint trackable in real time as the particles move around the globe, plus monitoring of the radiation balance; and a claim that the resulting layer can be tailored more precisely than a sulfate layer. Around this sits a safety framework published as eight papers, sorting the concerns into impacts on human health and the biosphere, impacts on stratospheric chemistry, and climatic impacts. The three sit at visibly different stages of proof, which he does not hide, and only the first is anywhere near settled; climatic impacts cannot be lab tested at all, which is precisely why the small-scale ramp is his answer. He states that the testing is not done, that the papers were released so the scientific community can review and externally validate them, and that he wants three or four other organizations pursuing their own options within a few years so that governments are never choosing from a menu of one.

Governance is where he declines to go further, and the decline is the substance. Every decision, on research, on testing and on deployment, should be made by governments in the plural; Stardust would not participate in anything lacking clear and strict regulation; this is on the company’s website and its investors are aligned with it. Asked what body that would be, he says he does not know, and adds that the company should be careful not to try to shape the framework, because a technology developer steering its own regulation would be bad for several reasons. The most he offers is a precedent, the Montreal Protocol, which he describes as a US-led sequence in which academia identified the problem, US industry produced the substitute, and the US government assembled a multilateral coalition within three or four years, producing a treaty that both banned the harmful gases and set criteria for acceptable replacements. Shayle agrees it is the obvious analogy and then pushes on it: the same analogy has been reached for across every other climate effort, and the later agreement built in its image has clearly not done the trick, which is why the conversation about geoengineering is happening at all. Two further objections are aired and not resolved. On moral hazard, that a working option reduces the incentive to decarbonize, Yedvab raises the concern himself and calls it valid and serious, sets against it a moral imperative that governments have good options available in five or ten years, and says plainly that he is not claiming this is an easy problem. On the free driver risk he softens Shayle’s “anyone could do it” to “many players, not anyone,” and argues that a safe option lowers the chance someone chooses a reckless one, since dispersing toxic material into the sky requires no sophistication and no governance at all.

04What you need to know first

Solar radiation management
Reflecting a small fraction of incoming sunlight back to space in order to lower temperature. It does nothing about greenhouse gas concentrations; it offsets their heating effect. Yedvab says reflecting less than 1% of incoming sunlight is enough to stabilize temperature and even bring it down slightly.
Stratospheric aerosols and the volcanic analogue
The stratosphere sits above the weather layer, so particles placed there stay aloft and spread rather than washing out. Large volcanic eruptions inject sulfate there and cool the planet as a side effect, which is why sulfuric acid has been the default candidate and why the physics is not in dispute.
Free rider versus free driver
Shayle’s organizing distinction, credited to the economist Scott Barrett. Emissions cuts are a free rider problem: the benefit is shared, so everyone would rather another party pay. Solar geoengineering is a free driver problem: it is cheap enough that a single actor could impose the outcome on everyone.
Moral hazard
Used here in its precise sense: the concern that having a cheap way to offset warming weakens the incentive to do the harder work of cutting emissions. Both speakers use the term, and Yedvab pairs it with what he calls a moral imperative to have options ready.

05Details worth keeping

  • Placement would need several injection points rather than one, because volcanic cooling effects have historically been regional. Yedvab suggests two or three sites per hemisphere plus perhaps one near the equator. He adds a design principle: you want to cancel the greenhouse warming pattern as accurately as possible, because restoring past conditions is itself the best way to limit unintended consequences.
  • Shayle raises historical eruptions to set up that question, citing Mount Pinatubo thirty-five years earlier and Mount Tambora in 1815, whose gloomy European summer he ties to Mary Shelley’s writing.
  • The biodegradability argument targets one specific failure mode: discovering after fifty years that the particles have piled up with no good way to get rid of them.
  • He describes the tracking as conceptually like a satellite constellation with a global dashboard, each batch carrying something like a QR code.
  • Yedvab wants competitors. His stated hope is three or four other entities, whether universities, companies or hybrids, developing their own options within two or three years, so governments deciding whether to act have more than one safe candidate.
  • On why this is a private company rather than a university or government lab, his argument is that basic research always starts in academia and technology development does not. He compares it to life-saving drugs, genome sequencing and space, and to the COVID vaccines coming from Moderna and the German firm the transcript renders as “BeyondTech.” The private sector’s two advantages, as he frames them, are pooling resources and attracting top talent. He leaves advocacy, education and eventual decision-making to academia, nonprofits and governments.

06Claims worth citing

All figures as stated on 2026-07-01. The cost, tonnage and effectiveness numbers are Stardust’s own estimates for a system that has not been built or tested at scale, so they are design targets rather than measured results, and should be attributed to the company.

  • Roughly $10 billion per million tons of particles dispersed, producing about half a degree Celsius of cooling. Both speakers confirm this is an annual cost, not one-time. Yedvab, Stardust estimate
  • Stopping warming at the level current at the time of recording would take about two million tons of Stardust’s particles a year. Shayle converts that to “$20 billion, plus or minus” and Yedvab agrees, so the dollar figure is the host’s arithmetic on the guest’s numbers. Yedvab, with Kann’s conversion
  • Shayle’s opening figure: about three million tons for one and a half degrees of cooling at around $30 billion, which he introduces as “by one estimate” and compares to the cost of one hyperscale data center. Kann; the show notes attribute the estimate to Stardust
  • Reflecting less than 1% of incoming sunlight is enough to stabilize temperature. Yedvab
  • The stratosphere already holds a few hundred thousand tons of sulfates, and the background fluctuates, so the smallest detectable sulfate experiment is on the order of one million tons. Yedvab
  • Stardust’s particles are comparable to sulfate in effectiveness, within a few tenths of a percent, and he states they are not much better and not much worse. Yedvab
  • Sulfur-based approaches may be somewhat cheaper than Stardust’s; the company does not claim to be the cheapest option. Yedvab
  • Deployment would use roughly two or three injection sites per hemisphere plus perhaps one near the equator. Yedvab
  • Stardust has released a series of eight papers, the first defining the set of safety requirements the technology would have to meet. Yedvab
  • The Montreal Protocol coalition came together within three or four years of the problem being identified, in a process he characterizes as US-led with DuPont developing the substitute. Yedvab

07Where it’s contested

  • Feasibility and desirability are different questions, and only the first gets an answer. Yedvab argues that a safe particle and a stepwise testing method can be built. He does not argue that deployment would be right, and he repeatedly routes that decision to governments. A note or a conversation that treats his technical confidence as confidence about deployment misreports him.
  • The testing is not finished and he says so directly. His strongest formulation is that for the first time there is a foundation for what may be a safe and controllable option, with a lot of work remaining. The eight papers were published specifically so that outside scientists can review and validate them, which he calls critical; that review had not happened at the time of recording.
  • The three safety buckets are at three different stages. Human health and biosphere: he says existing criteria for other uses of these materials apply, that Stardust meets them and went through the process formally, while allowing that the criteria may need modification for this use. Stratospheric chemistry: lab tests only, which he describes as showing high inertness and “definitely better than any other alternative” so far, with field testing still to come. Climatic impacts: cannot be lab tested at all, which is the whole reason the small-scale ramp is his answer.
  • The pitch is safety, not performance or price. He concedes comparable effectiveness and a possible cost disadvantage versus sulfur. Anyone repeating the episode’s headline cost figures should note they are not offered as a competitive advantage.
  • Moral hazard is conceded, not answered. Shayle raises it; Yedvab calls it a very valid and serious concern, says explicitly that it is not an easy problem, and offers a counterweight rather than a solution. The mitigation ideas he mentions are other people’s and he does not adopt one.
  • The “a safe option crowds out a reckless one” argument is an assertion. He reframes Shayle’s “anyone could do it” as “many players, not anyone,” and reasons that someone determined to disperse toxic material needs neither sophistication nor permission, so the existence of a good option reduces the odds of a bad one. No evidence is offered, and it sits somewhat awkwardly against his own point that his approach is not the cheapest.
  • The host pushes back on the governance precedent. Shayle agrees the Montreal Protocol is the obvious analogy and then observes that it has been the obvious analogy for every other climate agreement, and that the successor agreement built on its model has not worked, which is why the geoengineering conversation exists. Yedvab does not contest this; he shifts to expecting individual governments to start evaluating the technology and hopes consolidation follows, hedged as an assumption and a guess.
  • He declines to name a governing body, on principle. Asked whether it should be a UN sub-body or something new, he says he is not sure and that Stardust should be careful not to shape the answer. The central question of Shayle’s monologue, who gets to decide, is therefore left open by the guest on purpose.
  • One transcript garble worth knowing. Describing the composite particle’s optical advantage, the transcript reads “it does not hit the stratosphere.” The surrounding sentences, about sulfate absorbing outgoing infrared radiation, indicate he means it does not heat the stratosphere.

Cite as: “Inside the most sophisticated plan for solar geoengineering,” The Energy Transition for the Rest of Us, note on Catalyst with Shayle Kann, July 1, 2026. CC BY 4.0. View the Markdown